Wells Family - Person Sheet
Wells Family - Person Sheet
NameMarie Edna English 
Birth11 Oct 1897, Cairo, Alexander Co, IL
CensusJun 1900, Cairo, Alexander Co, IL
Memoroll#236, pg 50
CensusApr 1910, San Francisco, CA
Memoroll#96, pg 88
CensusJan 1920, San Francisco, CA
Memoroll#133, pg 245
Census2 Apr 1930, San Francisco, CA
Memoroll#208, pg 1
Census3 Apr 1940, Alameda, Alameda Co, CA
Memoroll#436, pg 2
Death25 Jan 1974, Antioch, Contra Costa Co, CA
Burial30 Jan 1974, Willamette Nat'l Cem, Portland, Multnomah Co, OR
MemoBuried with her (2nd) husband, Plot M, 36
OccupationActress
FatherWilliam Alexander English (1861-1923)
MotherHannah Powers (1869-1916)
Misc. Notes
Listed with her parents in 1900 and 1910. The 1900 census lists her birth as Oct 1898, and her age was 2 - then crossed out and changed to 1. She has a twin sister, Edna Marie!
Her family moved to Calif when she was 6 according to her death cert. In 1910 she and her sister are listed as age 12. "I remember grandma saying they went to Catholic school and the nuns were so strict. She had a sparky Irish glint in her eye... and I'm sure she was a true hellraiser in her early years."
The marriage license in 1916 lists her as age 18, born in IL and parents Wm A. English (b. IL) and Hannah Powers (b. IL). It was witnessed by James Wm. English (her brother). 1920 census lists her as age 22, no occupation, with her husband and two sons at 474 Fell Street in San Francisco. The 1924 Examiner article on her husband's bigamy lists her as an actress. Subsequently, she gave up all four of her sons for her in-laws to raise. She was head dancer for Fantera Marko (?) according to her son, Lloyd.
Family lore about the English twins was that they were "Flappers" in the roaring twenties. They were dancers and one of them was working at Republic Studios as a wardrobe mistress. They were thought of as rather "Wild". That could mean they smoked cigarettes! Edna Marie and her twin sister Marie Edna were in fact dancing girls in a troupe that, among other places, toured the southwest and - according to their sister Zella, who was in charge of wardrobe - once performed before Pancho Villa and his band. Presumably to favorable reviews.
Herbert subsequently filed for a divorce from her on 5 April 1927 in San Francisco. There were a series of cross complaints, responses and amended responses up thru Sept 20th, when the divorce was paused; and on Sept 21 the judge denied Interlocutory of Divorce to either party. That is the last record for the action until 1959 when the expired case was closed. Due to the fact that both Herbert and Marie later remarried, it is obvious that they were either divorced in another County or at a later date in San Francisco.
In 1930 Marie (25, IL) and Jack Fledderman (37, LA) were living in the Arundell apartments on Ellis St, listed as married, and had no children from either marriage living with them.
"She was a tiny little thing... 4'10". A dancer... in vaudeville, she and my grandpa (who was 6'4") had a routine where she would dance around him as he played the grand piano. But her punishment of choice was her shoe when she needed to discipline us... she'd say "don't make me take off my shoe!" She was fast at it too!" They were both big in the Eagles group (like the Elks) and were like Mr and Mrs Eagle one year - late 60s or very early 70s. They were both HUGE baseball fans - Giants and As - and she would score the games on note pads. They would have one game on the TV and the other on the radio and she would be scoring both of them. Jack was also a huge coin collector.
In 1940 she is listed with her husband Jack (47, LA) a musician and 6 yr old daughter Joan, next door to the family of her sister Edna. It says she had completed her sophomore year of high school, just like her husband and sister.
She was always the strong one in the relationship, but when he died, she was lost. He died before her, and she is listed as a widow on her death cert. She had Parkinsons disease and died of pneumonia in the Driftwood Convalescent Hospital, where she had been living with her daughter, in Antioch, for 8 months at the time, following her husband's death.
Oakland Tribune - Monday, 28 Jan 1974, pg 14E
FLEDDERMANN, Marie Edna, in Antioch, January 25, 1974; beloved wife of the late Jack Fleddermann; loving mother of Joan MacCallister of Antioch; sister of Edna O’Banion of San Leandro and Zella Prager of Santa Ana; grandmother of five grandchildren. A native of Illinois; aged 76 years. A member of and post president of Alameda Eagles Ladies Ausiliary No. 1976 F.O.E.
Friends are invited to attend the services, Tuesday, January 29 at 9:30 a.m. from the George W. Murphy Memorial Chapel, 1421 High St, Alameda; thence to St Joseph’s Basillica, 1109 Chestnut St, Alameda where a Mass of Christian Burial will be celebrated commencing at 10:00 a.m. Recitation of the Rosary, Monday evening at 8:00 p.m. followed by an Eagles Auxilary Service under the auspices of Alameda Aerie No. 1076 F.O.E. Ralph H. Greer, director. Interment, Willamette National Cemetery, Portland, Oregon.
The Murphy-Greer funeral home in Alameda CA handled her funeral before sending her body to Jacobson-Cascade (now Lincoln-Willamette) 9775 S.E. Scott, Portland OR 97216, tel (503) 771-1191. She is buried in the Willamette National Cemetery next to her husband.
Her family moved to Calif when she was 6 according to her death cert. In 1910 she and her sister are listed as age 12. "I remember grandma saying they went to Catholic school and the nuns were so strict. She had a sparky Irish glint in her eye... and I'm sure she was a true hellraiser in her early years."
The marriage license in 1916 lists her as age 18, born in IL and parents Wm A. English (b. IL) and Hannah Powers (b. IL). It was witnessed by James Wm. English (her brother). 1920 census lists her as age 22, no occupation, with her husband and two sons at 474 Fell Street in San Francisco. The 1924 Examiner article on her husband's bigamy lists her as an actress. Subsequently, she gave up all four of her sons for her in-laws to raise. She was head dancer for Fantera Marko (?) according to her son, Lloyd.
Family lore about the English twins was that they were "Flappers" in the roaring twenties. They were dancers and one of them was working at Republic Studios as a wardrobe mistress. They were thought of as rather "Wild". That could mean they smoked cigarettes! Edna Marie and her twin sister Marie Edna were in fact dancing girls in a troupe that, among other places, toured the southwest and - according to their sister Zella, who was in charge of wardrobe - once performed before Pancho Villa and his band. Presumably to favorable reviews.
Herbert subsequently filed for a divorce from her on 5 April 1927 in San Francisco. There were a series of cross complaints, responses and amended responses up thru Sept 20th, when the divorce was paused; and on Sept 21 the judge denied Interlocutory of Divorce to either party. That is the last record for the action until 1959 when the expired case was closed. Due to the fact that both Herbert and Marie later remarried, it is obvious that they were either divorced in another County or at a later date in San Francisco.
In 1930 Marie (25, IL) and Jack Fledderman (37, LA) were living in the Arundell apartments on Ellis St, listed as married, and had no children from either marriage living with them.
"She was a tiny little thing... 4'10". A dancer... in vaudeville, she and my grandpa (who was 6'4") had a routine where she would dance around him as he played the grand piano. But her punishment of choice was her shoe when she needed to discipline us... she'd say "don't make me take off my shoe!" She was fast at it too!" They were both big in the Eagles group (like the Elks) and were like Mr and Mrs Eagle one year - late 60s or very early 70s. They were both HUGE baseball fans - Giants and As - and she would score the games on note pads. They would have one game on the TV and the other on the radio and she would be scoring both of them. Jack was also a huge coin collector.
In 1940 she is listed with her husband Jack (47, LA) a musician and 6 yr old daughter Joan, next door to the family of her sister Edna. It says she had completed her sophomore year of high school, just like her husband and sister.
She was always the strong one in the relationship, but when he died, she was lost. He died before her, and she is listed as a widow on her death cert. She had Parkinsons disease and died of pneumonia in the Driftwood Convalescent Hospital, where she had been living with her daughter, in Antioch, for 8 months at the time, following her husband's death.
Oakland Tribune - Monday, 28 Jan 1974, pg 14E
FLEDDERMANN, Marie Edna, in Antioch, January 25, 1974; beloved wife of the late Jack Fleddermann; loving mother of Joan MacCallister of Antioch; sister of Edna O’Banion of San Leandro and Zella Prager of Santa Ana; grandmother of five grandchildren. A native of Illinois; aged 76 years. A member of and post president of Alameda Eagles Ladies Ausiliary No. 1976 F.O.E.
Friends are invited to attend the services, Tuesday, January 29 at 9:30 a.m. from the George W. Murphy Memorial Chapel, 1421 High St, Alameda; thence to St Joseph’s Basillica, 1109 Chestnut St, Alameda where a Mass of Christian Burial will be celebrated commencing at 10:00 a.m. Recitation of the Rosary, Monday evening at 8:00 p.m. followed by an Eagles Auxilary Service under the auspices of Alameda Aerie No. 1076 F.O.E. Ralph H. Greer, director. Interment, Willamette National Cemetery, Portland, Oregon.
The Murphy-Greer funeral home in Alameda CA handled her funeral before sending her body to Jacobson-Cascade (now Lincoln-Willamette) 9775 S.E. Scott, Portland OR 97216, tel (503) 771-1191. She is buried in the Willamette National Cemetery next to her husband.
Spouses
Birth4 Jan 1897, San Francisco, CA
Death6 Apr 1979, San Francisco, CA
Burial10 Apr 1979, Evergreen Cem, Oakland, Alameda Co, CA
MemoCremated -Mausoleum Evergreen Chapel, Begonia Alcove
OccupationSeaman, Ship Captain
FatherWilliam Charles Samuels (1859-1934)
MotherElizabeth Jane Young (1861-1951)
Misc. Notes
He was listed with his parents in 1900 and 1910 census. Listed as a driver in the 1919 City Directory. In 1920 he was living at 474 Fell St, renting and working as an auto mechanic. They had their third son, Leslie in March 1920. The birth certificate lists him as Capt. on the Laurel at Angel Island in a civil service position. And he seems to also be listed there renting a room on Angel Island and single in the 1920 census. When Ken was born in 1923 they were living at 181A 14th St. The birth certificate lists Herbert as the father.
A month later her was married again to Pearl Alcorn. A San Francisco Examiner article about him on April 9th, 1924 is titled "Man Charged With Bigamy" and reads: "The blighted romances of two young women who put implicit faith in their husband, but later discovered he had married one without divorcing the other, was revealed yesterday with the issuance of a bigamy warrant for Herbert M. Samuels, mariner. The warrant was sworn to by Mrs. Marie Samuels, wife No. 1, who declared that the first she knew of her husband's double life was when she surprised him several days ago living with Pearl Alcorn, wife No. 2, in an apartment house on Leavenworth street. At that time wife No. 2 explained that she did not know Samuels was married before. She quit him on the spot. Since then Samuels has disappeared. Wife No. 1, an actress, married Samuels nine years ago (1916) and has four children by him, the eldest being six." Within 10 days, Pearl filed for an annulment which was granted on May 3rd.
Herbert subsequently filed for a divorce from Marie on 5 April 1927 in San Francisco. There were a series of cross complaints, responses and amended responses up thru Sept 20th, when the divorce was paused; and on Sept 21 the judge denied Interlocutory of Divorce to either party. That is the last record for the action until 1959 when the expired case was closed. Due to the fact that both Herbert and Marie later remarried, it is obvious that they were either divorced in another County or at a later date in San Francisco.
He was listed as attending his parents 50th wedding anniversary in 1929, but is not shown in the photo which was printed in the Chronicle.
He legally married Pearl again on 17 June 1930 in Carson City, NV and they lived in Oakland until she divorced him in 1937 on the basis of cruelty.
He is listed as Herbert Samuels, a barge Captain for an Oil company and divorced (43, CA) in 1940, living with his divorced sister, Ruth.
He married Gudny Knudsen about 1949, but is not listed with her in the 1950 census and was most likely on a voyage at the time.
Son "Bud" says he retired as a ship Captain for the Branson Line. He apparently went by the name of Samuelsen in deference to his later wife, Gudny, who was Scandinavian. Social Security Death Records list his birth as 4 Jan 1897 and death as April 1979 in Oakland, CA. His death certificate lists Samuelson as an AKA and says he died in USPHS Hospital, on 15th & Lake St in San Francisco, and that he lived at 3023 Hyde St, Oakland, CA. He died of lung cancer and was cremated at the Evergreen Cemetery in Oakland. It also says he was a Seaman for 35 years, and worked for Marine Traders of Baltimore. The data was all supplied by his wife, Gudny who lived at their house in Oakland.
A month later her was married again to Pearl Alcorn. A San Francisco Examiner article about him on April 9th, 1924 is titled "Man Charged With Bigamy" and reads: "The blighted romances of two young women who put implicit faith in their husband, but later discovered he had married one without divorcing the other, was revealed yesterday with the issuance of a bigamy warrant for Herbert M. Samuels, mariner. The warrant was sworn to by Mrs. Marie Samuels, wife No. 1, who declared that the first she knew of her husband's double life was when she surprised him several days ago living with Pearl Alcorn, wife No. 2, in an apartment house on Leavenworth street. At that time wife No. 2 explained that she did not know Samuels was married before. She quit him on the spot. Since then Samuels has disappeared. Wife No. 1, an actress, married Samuels nine years ago (1916) and has four children by him, the eldest being six." Within 10 days, Pearl filed for an annulment which was granted on May 3rd.
Herbert subsequently filed for a divorce from Marie on 5 April 1927 in San Francisco. There were a series of cross complaints, responses and amended responses up thru Sept 20th, when the divorce was paused; and on Sept 21 the judge denied Interlocutory of Divorce to either party. That is the last record for the action until 1959 when the expired case was closed. Due to the fact that both Herbert and Marie later remarried, it is obvious that they were either divorced in another County or at a later date in San Francisco.
He was listed as attending his parents 50th wedding anniversary in 1929, but is not shown in the photo which was printed in the Chronicle.
He legally married Pearl again on 17 June 1930 in Carson City, NV and they lived in Oakland until she divorced him in 1937 on the basis of cruelty.
He is listed as Herbert Samuels, a barge Captain for an Oil company and divorced (43, CA) in 1940, living with his divorced sister, Ruth.
He married Gudny Knudsen about 1949, but is not listed with her in the 1950 census and was most likely on a voyage at the time.
Son "Bud" says he retired as a ship Captain for the Branson Line. He apparently went by the name of Samuelsen in deference to his later wife, Gudny, who was Scandinavian. Social Security Death Records list his birth as 4 Jan 1897 and death as April 1979 in Oakland, CA. His death certificate lists Samuelson as an AKA and says he died in USPHS Hospital, on 15th & Lake St in San Francisco, and that he lived at 3023 Hyde St, Oakland, CA. He died of lung cancer and was cremated at the Evergreen Cemetery in Oakland. It also says he was a Seaman for 35 years, and worked for Marine Traders of Baltimore. The data was all supplied by his wife, Gudny who lived at their house in Oakland.
Marriage25 Apr 1916, Alameda, Alameda Co, CA
Divorce
Separated9 Apr 1924, San Francisco, CA
Memosubsequently filed for divorce
ChildrenLloyd William (Samuels) (1916-1998)
Herbert Mathewson "Bud" (Samuels) (1918-2010)
William Walter (Samuels) (1920-2011)
Kenneth Joseph (1923-1987)
Birth7 Nov 1892, Gretna, Jefferson Parish, LA
Death3 May 1973, Alameda, Alameda Co, CA
Burial8 May 1973, Willamette Nat'l Cem, Portland, Multnomah Co, OR
MemoPlot M, 36
OccupationPiano Player, Musician
FatherHenry William Fleddermann (1852-1933)
MotherLouise Marie Rickert (1852-1911)
Misc. Notes
According to Willamette National Cemetery records he was born 7 Nov 1892 and died 3 May 1973.
He is listed with his parents as Frank Fledderman in the 1900 census.
Listed as John Frank (17, LA) with his parents in 1910, although it shows his birth as 1891. Parents had been married 37 yrs and had 7 of their 9 children living.
He enlisted in the Army during WWI on 26 Mar 1917 in New Orleans, and was discharged as a Sgt. on 27 Mar 1919.
Listed in the 1920 census as a music teacher (27, LA), with his wife Georgia (19, CA). It shows his father as being born in Germany and his mother in Louisiana.
Was a piano player, and supposedly met Marie in the theater. In 1930, he is listed with her in the San Francisco census as teaching and playing music. They were living in the Arundell apartments on Ellis St, and it says they are married, and that he (37, LA) was first married at age 21, and she (25, IL) at age 18. They had no children from either marriage living with them.
They were living in Vacaville in 1942 when he registered for the WWII draft. At the time he was working for the Navy Dept. at Mare Island in Vallejo, and it states his birthplace as Gretna, LA.
The Murphy-Greer funeral home in Alameda CA handled his funeral before sending him to Portland for burial in the National cemetery. The SSDI lists him as Jack Fleddermann.
He is listed with his parents as Frank Fledderman in the 1900 census.
Listed as John Frank (17, LA) with his parents in 1910, although it shows his birth as 1891. Parents had been married 37 yrs and had 7 of their 9 children living.
He enlisted in the Army during WWI on 26 Mar 1917 in New Orleans, and was discharged as a Sgt. on 27 Mar 1919.
Listed in the 1920 census as a music teacher (27, LA), with his wife Georgia (19, CA). It shows his father as being born in Germany and his mother in Louisiana.
Was a piano player, and supposedly met Marie in the theater. In 1930, he is listed with her in the San Francisco census as teaching and playing music. They were living in the Arundell apartments on Ellis St, and it says they are married, and that he (37, LA) was first married at age 21, and she (25, IL) at age 18. They had no children from either marriage living with them.
They were living in Vacaville in 1942 when he registered for the WWII draft. At the time he was working for the Navy Dept. at Mare Island in Vallejo, and it states his birthplace as Gretna, LA.
The Murphy-Greer funeral home in Alameda CA handled his funeral before sending him to Portland for burial in the National cemetery. The SSDI lists him as Jack Fleddermann.
ChildrenJoan Marie (1934-2001)